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Title: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: Hurricanecharly on February 06, 2019, 08:34:40 PM
Loaded about400 bullets last night, started on the next hundred, half way through had a pretty good explosion, blew my hat off!
After checking myself for holes and calming Slow Jen down, called it a night
Tore it apart today had locked up and bulged primer feeder tube.
Called Dillion the ate sending entire primer assembly!
Was told not to use federal primers in a 650.
Anyone have a similar  situation?
Title: Re: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: TN Mongo on February 06, 2019, 09:15:20 PM
Yep!  I had some military .38 brass.  The old primers came out okay, but the new ones didn't want to go in (they are tightly crimped on military brass).  I tried to force the primers in.  A set off a couple of primers trying.  I bought a swager and did all primer pockets in the military brass.  I set them aside in box in the reloading room and I've looked at them for the last 14 years.  I've never been brave enough to try them again even though they're supposedly fixed now.

I still only use Federals, but I seat them gently.  If they're they fight me going in, I stop and discard that round.
Title: Re: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: Critr on February 07, 2019, 07:07:00 AM
No 650. ::) No problems. 8)
Title: Re: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: Marshal Too Tall on February 07, 2019, 10:22:32 AM
Did you have an adult beverage nearby when you were loading? ;D. I have heard of this happening when a primer was being forced into the case.  On my 550, if something doesn't feel right, I stop and find out the problem before proceeding.  Do not get in a hurry when reloading!

...Too Tall...
Title: Re: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: Keystone on February 07, 2019, 10:35:03 AM
Yep,
Had a friend who had a similar experience with the primer tube ignition. Glad you had no injuries. Hope Jen wasn't too traumatized.
Keystone
Title: Re: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: Hurricanecharly on February 10, 2019, 07:31:32 AM
Too Tall the adult beverage came after the explosion,I got the 650 so I could load faster!
You are right about something not right,stop and check it out good advice and I'll take it.
Keystone Slow Jen was not traumatized  just startled she knows it's hard to find a good gunboy/ cart b...h!
Title: Re: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: Hurricanecharly on February 10, 2019, 07:54:22 PM
Called dillion thursday.
Got entire primer assembly  Saturday in mail box.
Wish more things were like that!
Title: Re: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: Hurricanecharly on February 13, 2019, 05:52:25 PM
Loaded first rounds since putting loader back together.
Talked to several people who have not posted but have had similar  events as mine.
I wore saftey glasses and intend to get a flip down shield  after what I have seen and heard!

Slowest 200 ends I ever loaded today!
Title: Re: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: Marshal Too Tall on February 14, 2019, 09:05:24 AM
Charly,

Just curious but did you try to force something before the explosion?  Also, just wondering what other people have experienced before the big event!  This has never happened to me and I don't want it to happen to me so I would like to know what event occured before the primers exploded.


...Too Tall...
Title: Re: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: Hurricanecharly on February 14, 2019, 04:45:56 PM
Forcing the primer to seat seems to be common denominator  in all the stories I have heard.
Dillion says not to use federal 100s in 650, apparently  the go of easier,duhhhh!
Cant day for others but I was getting primers crooked acasionaly.
Machine seemed timed correctly in all other operations.
Put in new primer assembly, no crooked primers so far!
Primer caroseul  worn?
Don't know,be careful out there!
Title: Re: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: Marshal Too Tall on February 15, 2019, 08:05:35 AM
Being a progressive press, I guess there is a tendency to go fast with a 650.  Not sure if there is a separate operation to seat primers but I wouldn't think so. With the 550, you can feel the primer being seated and can stop if the primer refuses to seat.


...Too Tall...
Title: Re: Dillion 650 blow up!
Post by: Judge on February 15, 2019, 10:29:30 AM

Too Tall,

You can feel the 650 as it seats on the down stroke.

I load at around 500 .38's an hour. Not really fast, but I can see Charly maybe getting a little quick with it.

I've had a few crumple sideways, and certain pieces of brass just dont like Federal primers. If I feel resistance I pull the brass and pitch it it.